tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post914333247688618753..comments2024-02-08T03:19:48.451-07:00Comments on Box Canyon Blog.com: "A Confederacy of Dunces"Box Canyon Blog.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07032055509766739436noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-28319378727791453102012-12-24T07:25:10.995-07:002012-12-24T07:25:10.995-07:00"I seldom defend people; most have ulterior m..."I seldom defend people; most have ulterior motives and feet of clay. But ideas, I will defend... especially those on how we might escape the mess we've made. Those ideas are getting put out there... just in case. We need a little traction. We are at a tipping point... "<br /><br />Well stated! I could not have summated the "point" any better. I love the dialog that ensues after your posts.<br /><br />-CalebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-17679345229579996542012-12-19T15:32:44.608-07:002012-12-19T15:32:44.608-07:00Thanks, Mark, I'd love to meet you in person. ...Thanks, Mark, I'd love to meet you in person. You are a class act. I've discovered your blog via a convoluted chain starting at Early Retirement Extreme, can't remember how I got there!martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07822864313226560504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-33684789857169582912012-12-19T11:44:05.448-07:002012-12-19T11:44:05.448-07:00First, a weather updated... it's snowing like ...First, a weather updated... it's snowing like hell (? never did get that one). A blizzard, and I'm not talking Dairy Queen!!!<br />It is a good day to stay inside by the fire, but I'm not gonna. Bobbie did most of the heavy shoveling... but it's filling back in pretty fast. I go see if I can at least shovel the deck and get the Christmas lights plugged in... it's the least i can do :))<br /><br />Pam and Wayne,<br />Ha... I like your mom. She can ride with me anytime :)) I appreciate your two cents. definitely worth a nickel, at least (grin)<br /><br />Mick,<br />You must be young... it's not the Siefield Newman, I was referring to the Mad Magazine Neuman :)) Google it. I wonder if it's still in publication? thanks Mick.<br /><br />Martin,<br />Whether it's schools, churches, governments... just give give us all sides of the story and let us make up our own minds... as the "facts" get "revised" (ahem) then we can always adapt and change our minds, if we haven't been brainwashed, that is. You sound both intelligent, and reasonable... polite. If only our leaders had such traits...<br />A Subaru Brat, eh? Well at least you had the right car for those snowy roads. I see you are in England... how in the heck??? Thanks for chiming in, and when you do get back to Colorado, stop by Lovely Ouray and look us up. :))<br /><br />Susan, <br />I think there is more food for the bighorn sheep that live around here. It's hard to make a meal out of red sandstone :)) And those rams were small... I get some photos of full curl rams... quite intimidating. thanks... see you soon.<br /><br />Laverne,<br />Arguing is the last thing I like to do... I was just giving a Book Report/review of Deep Truth. I thought it had some new food for thought. A made up mind is a closed mind... most of the time. You can quote me. thanks, and I wish you the best Christmas ever :))<br /><br />Tom in (warm) Orlando,<br />Nice quote... not too specific so as to piss people off :))<br /><br />George,<br />No, the evidence does not seem to support that theory, anymore... since we became so "civilized." Pre-historically speaking, the evidence suggests lack of war, tho. Very few to none whatsoever artifacts like skulls bashed in, blunt trauma to bones, arrow nicks, etc.. The earliest groups of "Man"seemed to get by by cooperating... so that's where my "wired" comment was coming from. You see it in some primitive cultures even today. But we are unlearning it more and more every day. <br /><br />And there is "something in it for them (us)" if we cooperate... think about it.<br />Thanks, George... always enjoy your "take."<br />Box Canyon Mark<br /><br />Box Canyon Blog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07032055509766739436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-11671304142850632332012-12-19T11:42:39.245-07:002012-12-19T11:42:39.245-07:00Yes, its pretty clear that people are "wired&...Yes, its pretty clear that people are "wired" (whether that is through design or evolution is another issue) for a wide variety of behaviours. Which behaviours get to be expressed is a complex mixture of genetic, nurturing, education, reward, punishment, etc. All of which are complex individually, and even more so in combination. <br /><br />I just hope that aspects such as, but not limited to, man's superior intelligence and ability to think deeply, rationally and for the long term will be enough to avoid the obvious potential disaster that are looming. <br />martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07822864313226560504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-77095406184606766302012-12-19T09:15:05.266-07:002012-12-19T09:15:05.266-07:00I'm sure it's very comforting to believe t...I'm sure it's very comforting to believe that people are wired for cooperation, not war, but do you really think that the evidence supports that theory?<br />Can it be that we are wired for both and that is why there is evidence for both throughout history. Personally, I believe that people will cooperate as long as there's something in it for them but as soon as that is no longer true, competition and violence will spontaneously arise. <br />Hunger, cold, etc. hurts and people will do what they have to do in order to survive, not only for today but also to build resources to ensure survival in the future during times of want.XXXXXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00724445050128348286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-73305101680278997492012-12-19T06:02:13.048-07:002012-12-19T06:02:13.048-07:00“Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be ...“Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.” <br />― Carl SaganTomInBellaVistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16061128103394694054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-53925048209053623002012-12-19T05:23:40.093-07:002012-12-19T05:23:40.093-07:00Laverne here...Mark, your explanation to this deba...Laverne here...Mark, your explanation to this debate makes good sense to me..arguing politics and religion is like a dog chasing its own tail!<br /><br />Loved your postcards, Silverton looks great, even when abandoned...<br /><br />Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your loved ones.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-83156686135580841362012-12-18T17:23:32.137-07:002012-12-18T17:23:32.137-07:00Susan here. The Zion Bighorn were much more delic...Susan here. The Zion Bighorn were much more delicate. Although at the time since they scared the begeesus outta me, at the time they were the size of a herd of elephants. And as for that icy snowy road without guard rails... you crazy dunces!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-49916731681446400512012-12-18T11:59:24.900-07:002012-12-18T11:59:24.900-07:00Personally I think that we have evolved to be a co...Personally I think that we have evolved to be a cooperative species, but its a complex subject. In any case, I think there's a lot of truth in what you wrote, Mark, and while I see some things differently, I agree wholeheartedly about the big picture you are trying to get across regarding the need for cooperation, instead of conflict. With the invention of increasingly powerful and potentially destructive technology, survival won't be possible, let alone happiness, without some serious, sustained, and widespread cooperation. <br /><br />I think it would help a lot if critical thinking were properly taught in school, from early on, and when the current, best established and supported facts and theories are taught, its should always be made clear that they are tentative, and never crammed down throats as the final word. <br /><br />I've added the damn book to my reading list! <br /><br /><br />Spectacular pictures! Brings me back to some scary driving over Rocky Mountain passes in the snow in my 82 Subaru Brat. I've got to get back to Colorado!martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07822864313226560504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-485814995318022662012-12-18T11:39:43.718-07:002012-12-18T11:39:43.718-07:00Mark,
You do have a way with words. I appreciate ...Mark,<br />You do have a way with words. I appreciate that. You mention Neuman, isn't he the guy from Seinfeld? Just wondering,<br /><br />MickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4134981800236544647.post-66913311491565879282012-12-18T11:03:18.295-07:002012-12-18T11:03:18.295-07:00My mom is sitting beside me on the phone with her ...My mom is sitting beside me on the phone with her cousin in Georgia, discussing our upcoming post-Christmas trip. She was telling her how we'll all split up when we get to Atlanta and that my daughter and I plan on hitting the Martin Luther King and Jimmy Carter museums in Atlanta. My mom said "Somehow I'll put up with driving all the way down there in the car with two Democrats" and we all had a good natured laugh. <br /><br />While cooperation is definitely more useful than competition, the human race has need of both traits...it's just having the wisdom to use them appropriately at the right time that's the struggle! As for men like Hitler who make such a mess of things...sociopaths don't follow any rules because their concerns are selfish and they only say what they think people want to hear in order for people to go along with them. Don't get me started on sociopaths! Enjoy all that snow that's on its way, and say hi to the Bighorns from us next time you run across them!Pam https://www.blogger.com/profile/05979446142128610261noreply@blogger.com